What's on the Mind of ACE Peer Group Members Going Into Spring 2026

Vince Torchia shares insights from over 250 members across 19 ACE peer groups about what's top of mind heading into spring 2026. From creating more leaders without micromanaging to understanding the difference between owner math and financial knowledge, to the red-yellow-green client rating system, Vince breaks down the three critical areas landscape business owners are focused on right now.

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Episode Timestamps

00:51 - Key Topics for Spring 2026

01:02 - Leadership In Your Organization

05:24 - Enhancing Financial Knowledge

08:52 - Defining Your Company’s Vision

12:40 - ACE Discovery 2026

Key Learnings 

Leadership: Create Leaders Who Can Make Decisions Without Permission – What do I do to get more leaders at my organization? What kind of environment do we need to create where somebody can make a decision for a customer, make a decision for our team, invest time or money without having to come ask me as the owner? We've set up an organization where people can go take action and have some autonomy.

The Nick Saban Coaching Tree Analogy – All four coaches that made it through the college football playoffs were coaches under Nick Saban at one time or another. His ability to be a great coach was also an ability to create other leaders, not just people that did whatever Nick Saban wanted them to do. The more people that we have at our organization that are leaders, the better that we will do.

Soft Skills Are the Real Skills – It's really not about the technical side of landscaping or maintenance or irrigation or snow. It's all about the soft skills. How do you have a tough conversation? How do you coach? How do you lead? How do you give corrective behavior tools and still have them appreciate and respect what you're doing?

10 Years Ago It Was Just Me, Now It's Eight Leaders – Marty talks about it a lot. 10 years ago, he felt like it was him, maybe one other individual from Grunder who thought like an owner. Now there's eight of us on the leadership team, and many managers feel the same way about having the ability to make a decision, the ability to run the ball.

Owner Math vs. Financial Knowledge – A lot of ACE members are great at owner math or napkin math. We know how many trucks are going out, we can tell by morning activity what we're at from a capacity standpoint. But my cash isn't matching my P&L. I have no strategy around debt servicing or liquidity. People are paying slower now. My AR days are higher than usual.

Profitability and Cash Flow Are Not the Same Thing – The profitability moves from your P&L to your balance sheet. It's an accounting equation. The more we understand those levers, the better we can operate, the better we can have conversations with our banker, our lawyer, our insurance agent, our vendors.

Red, Yellow, Green Client Rating System – Green means we love working with them, it's sustainable, profitable, enjoyable. Yellow, I don't know about these people, we might need to value engineer. Red, we're not making money, we're never making them happy, they're not referring us. Honor your contracts this year, but rate them and make a plan.

Spring Is When You Ask the Hard Questions – Every spring, we go back out on clients' properties and the question enters our mind: should we be doing this work for this client? When we're at our most stressed is when we really start to ask the most questions about our organization. That's normal and natural.

Nothing Worse Than Servicing a Red Client and Not Addressing It – To call that out is critically important. Say to the team, "Hey, we realize this is a red for us. We've got a contract, we're gonna stick to it, but we're aware and you're aware, so we'll make a plan another time." Acknowledge it.

Reflection Questions

1. If we keep using the same training systems and expect different leadership results, what's actually going to be different this year?

1. When was the last time you sat down with your accountant or controller and asked "Why are we booking this cost in this category?" to actually understand your P&L?

1. How many of your current clients would you honestly rate as RED if you used the green-yellow-red system right now, and what's your plan for next year?

Resources:

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